Once I was a clever boy learning the arts of Oxford... is a quotation from the verses written by Bishop Richard Fleming (c.1385-1431) for his tomb in Lincoln Cathedral. Fleming, the founder of Lincoln College in Oxford, is the subject of my research for a D. Phil., and, like me, a son of the West Riding. I have remarked in the past that I have a deeply meaningful on-going relationship with a dead fifteenth century bishop... it was Fleming who, in effect, enabled me to come to Oxford and to learn its arts, and for that I am immensely grateful.


Showing posts with label SSPX. Show all posts
Showing posts with label SSPX. Show all posts

Thursday, 29 May 2014

Franciscans of the Immaculate, the Pope and SSPX and Californian Oratorians...


Rorate Caeli is a blog which has some very interesting posts and a distinctive view on ecclesial matters. The three latest pieces are, I think, in their different ways, worth sharing.

The first is about the continuing problems around the Franciscans of the Immaculate and the impending visitation of the Sisters of the community, about which Fr Blake was writing recently. It is purely and simply a forwarded request for intercession by using the Rosary and can be read at A CALL TO PRAYER on behalf of the Franciscan Friars and Sisters of the Immaculate

The second is a report from a French source in SSPX about the Pope's concern for practical matters affecting the Society in Argentina, and makes for rather intersting reading in what it reveals. It can be read at  SSPX Bp. Fellay on Pope Francis: "He has read the biography of Abp. Lefebvre twice - and he liked it."And some other important revelations

The third post is on an Oratorian theme from California, and struck me particularly because the various US Oratories had figured in a conversation at recreation after the meeting of the Brothers of the Oxford Oratory on Tuesday evening. It can be seen at New oratory community in San Francisco




Friday, 18 October 2013

Understanding the Pope


The Catholic part of the blogosphere has been more than usually busy following the publication of the two recent interviews the Pope has given, with vigorous comments both for and against what the Pope has said or, perhaps more importantly, is thought to have said.

I have good friends who not happy at all with what they read and see, others who are cautious or positive in their reactions. I know those who might well be described as traditionalist, or indeed as Traditionalist (there is a difference) who are very positive about things the Pope has done or said. Others are dismayed and fear the worst. On occasion one person can express both sets of attitudes in the same or following conversations.

The publication of the Vatican decree about the use of the 1962 Missal by the Franciscans of the Immaculate and its implication for the application of Summorum Pontificum was seen by some as the thin edge of a very large wedge. Others saw it as a fairly technical regulation of one specific religious community, and who pointed out that permission for use of the 1962 liturgy had already been readily forthcoming.

For many I know, and thus not just for those who work in the media, the Pope's direct homely style has great appeal, although his daily Mass homilies are, I suspect, often not such as to appeal to Tabletistas who would otherwise enthuse about a South Americal Supreme Pontiff.

Some of the blogs I see, such as Rorate Caeli have posts which are definitely hostile or critical, whilst others seek to see a Hermeneutic of Continuity with Pope Benedict XVI - as for example in this piece by the head of the Knights of Columbus which a friend forwarded to me, and which can be read here.


Now we have Bishop Fellay from SSPX  making his views clear as reported by Rorate Caeli in For the record - Bishop Fellay: "we thank God, we have been preserved from any kind of Agreement"

All this fuels debate, but also confusion. The always insightful blogger Fr Blake has been led to ruminating in his series of recent posts Disconcerted by Francis? , Disconcerted by Francis #2, Disconcerted by Francis #3  and Disconcerted by Francis #4 and also returning to the theme in his post Joseph Shaw on Pope Francis, with its links to Dr Shaw's blog and his recent set of posts on Traditionalism and the present pontificate on his LMS Chairman blog. This too seeks to see common ground between Traditionalists and the Pope, as opposed to those whom Dr Shaw describes as Neo-Conservatives.

On a slightly different, but related, tack Fr Blake has another good post at 'Clericalism' which refers to what the Pope has said about some clergy attitudes. 
 
I am sure we are going to see a lot more electrons temporarily inconvenienced as the speculation and interpretation continues, as this is an important debate both for the Church as an institution, indeed as the Body of Christ, and for communities and individuals.


Personally I simply watch the situation and wait - as the saying goes "Them's as lives the longest will see the most."

Thursday, 21 February 2013

The Pope and SSPX



The well-informed and serious Rorate Caeli has a valuable and insightful piece from the religion blog at Le Figaro about the negotiations to regularise the position of SSPX as the present Pontificate approaches its conclusion. It is written with genuine passion for what is at stake. It is also more than that, in that it is also a reflection on the achievements of the Pope in respect of liturgical restoration. 

It can be read at Benedict XVI - SSPX: Quarter to midnight.


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The Pope in Eucharistic Adoration at the Madrid World Youth Day - for the writer in Le Figaro this is the quintessential image of the papacy of Pope Benedict XVI 


An important article that is well worth reading - and with matters well worth praying about.


 

Monday, 21 May 2012

Talking to and about SSPX


In case readers have not seen them The Sensible Bond has a series of posts about the current state of negotiations between the Holy See and SSPX. They provide a good amount of information and ideas about the state of play at the moment, and can be read at




Friday, 11 May 2012

The debate within SSPX


My attention had been drawn by a friend to a post on The Sensible Bond about the exchange of letters within the leadership of SSPX about responding to the Holy See and the current discussions. It can be read here.

As I have said previously about these discussions, it is time to pray, and to pray earnestly, for a successful outcome.

Saturday, 17 March 2012

The latest on Vatican -SSPX talks


A friend has sent me the text of a communique relating to the Society of St. Pius X, released this morning by the Holy See Press Office.

“During the meeting of 14 September 2011 between Cardinal William Levada, prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and president of the Pontifical Commission ‘Ecclesia Dei,’ and Bishop Bernard Fellay, superior general of the Society of St. Pius X, the latter was presented with a Doctrinal Preamble, accompanied by a Preliminary Note, as a fundamental basis for achieving full reconciliation with the Apostolic See. This defined certain doctrinal principles and criteria for the interpretation Catholic doctrine, which are necessary to ensure faithfulness to the Church Magisterium and ‘sentire cum Ecclesia.’

“The response of the Society of St. Pius X to the aforesaid Doctrinal Preamble, which arrived in January 2012, was examined by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith before being submitted to the Holy Father for his judgement. Pursuant to the decision made by Pope Benedict XVI, Bishop Fellay was, in a letter delivered today, informed of the evaluation of his response. The letter states that the position he expressed is not sufficient to overcome the doctrinal problems which lie at the foundation of the rift between the Holy See and the Society of St. Pius X.

“At the end of today's meeting, moved by concern to avoid an ecclesial rupture of painful and incalculable consequences, the superior general of the Society of St. Pius X was invited to clarify his position in order to be able to heal the existing rift, as is the desire of Pope Benedict XVI.” (VIS)

I suspect the key line is the last one, indicating that the door is still open, and bearing in mind both Bishop Fellay's statement some time ago that although the Preamble was not to their liking that SSPX were willing to respond and the Pope's manifest wish to attain a true reconciliation, stemming from his part in the negotiations in 1988, there is much still to hope for - and to pray for. Back to the Rosary.


Tuesday, 6 December 2011

Understanding the response of SSPX


There was a post from last week on New Liturgical Movement about the SSPX's response to the CDF and particularly the Doctrinal Preamble. It is by the well-respected Vatican journalist Andrea Tornielli. Although it does not tell us more that we already knew, it does provide more in the way of informed interpretation. The discussions are clearly not easy going, but they are not over yet. It can be read at Fellay: “We cannot accept the Preamble as it is”

Friday, 2 December 2011

SSPX and the Doctrinal Preamble


I read on yesterday's information posting from Zenit that Bishop Bernard Fellay of SSPX has said that the Society would want many modifications to the "Doctrinal Preamble" which was sent to them by Cardinal Levada and that he would only publish the draft text after further discussions have taken place with the Vatican. The report can be read here.

So we know the state of discussions in principle - talks will continue.

What really worried me was not the attitude of the SSPX or the CDF. No what worried me was Zenit's very misleading headline "Society of St Pius X rejects Vatican offer." That has not happened - it may happen, but then again it may not. Zenit is an excellent organisation, so I hope someone was just nodding over their computer, and not that someone is trying to create a false impression for whatever reason.

Back to the rosary on this one I think.

Friday, 11 November 2011

Talk on potential reconciliation with SSPX


Last night, along with a wide range of interested listeners, I attended the talk by Dr Brian Sudlow on the future of the relationship between the SSPX and the Catholic Church which I advertised in SSPX and the Church - a lecture.

Dr Sudlow is the translator of the biography of Archbishop Lefebvre by Bishop Bernard Tissier de Mallerais, and a former supporter of the Society. His reasons for leaving are set out in Why I left the SSPX milieu which can be found on his blog The Sensible Bond.

Given that the current lack of certain knowledge about the state of discussions between the CDF and SSPX his talk had to be a reflection on the background and his own views as to what could, or should, happen. Such rumours as there have been do not suggest a positive outcome in terms of acceptance, but they may turn out be part of the continuing politics of the situation.

For Dr Sudlow the key issue was that of the authority of the Church as the ultimate source of legitimacy, and he believes that if SSPX can accept that as apparently set out in the preamble to the proposed aggreement they would find a place for themselves within the Church. Given that they have Bishops already that would give them an advantage over other groups such as the FSSP or the Bon Pasteur institute in Bordeaux, which are dependent upon the existing diocesan episcopate. Those groups had not always found it easy at first but they were beginning to build upon their foundations.

His view was that SSPX cannot be self validating in regard to the interpretation of Catholic Tradition, and saw a tendency to cite texts of lesser authority that suited their case against ones of higher canonical status. He believes that, like academics, they should be willing to submit their ideas to the intellectual critique of episcopal and theological confreres. If that was accepted they might be surprised to find that they had more acceptance than they expected. Such issues were always risky, but that was one that was part of being part of the whole Church. In that respect there was a need for the long view, of seeking ultimate validation, not waiting until everything was as SSPX might want it before re-entering full communion.

He feared a hardening of attitudes if the breach remained unhealed. There is now a generation which has no knowledge of the pre-1988 situation, and that the ultimate logic for some might be a new wave of sede vacante-ism. The Pope, as Cardinal Ratzinger, had laboured hard to achieve reconciliation in 1988, and had courageously gone out to meet SSPX and seek to bring them fully into the fold.

Dr Sudlow was of the view that the particular French polito-religious concerns of SSPX members there were more or less impenetrable to non-French Catholics, but did think that some of the French episcopate were more favourable than hitherto to traditional ways.

Recent events such as the recent Assisi day and the beatification of Pope John Paul II raise new difficulties in the minds of SSPX members who distruct what they saw in the implied syncretism of the first Assisi meeting, and who are critical of the late Pope's actions, notably of course the excommunications of 1988.

It was possible that if no agreement with the whole of SSPX was achieved that the episcopate would split, with on eor possibly others accepting the offer from Rome, and others remaining outside. Individual SSPX bishops had a considerable personal following, who might well follow where they led.

This was a thought-provoking talk, and elicited a fair number of questions, but all of us, speaker as much as audience, are dependent upon the formal response of SSPX. Time to redouble one's prayers on this matter I think.


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The Pope and Bishop Bernard Fellay of SSPX

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Thursday, 3 November 2011

SSPX and the Church - a lecture


A friend has sent me details of this lecture next week, which looks likely to be both informative and topical:

OXFORD GRADUATE CATHOLIC THEOLOGY GROUP

"A REACTIONARY REVOLUTION?
The Society of St Pius X and the Roman Catholic Church"

A talk by Dr Brian Sudlow
8pm, 10th November 2011
Old Law Library, Magdalen College

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The Pope and Bishop Bernard Fellay of SSPX

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A range of reactions greeted Pope Benedict XVI's decision in 2009 to
restore to communion with Rome the four bishops of the
ultra-traditionalist Society of St Pius X - a group which opposes the
modernising reforms of the Second Vatican Council and subsequent
pontificates. Following several rounds of doctrinal talks, Rome has
presented the SSPX with a "doctrinal preamble" which, should it be
accepted, may serve as a foundation for the Society's canonical
regularisation in the Catholic Church. This talk will consider the
state and implications of these negotiations, as well as casting light
on the commitments governing the SSPX's approach to the Holy See.

Dr Brian Sudlow, Lecturer of French with Translation Studies at Aston
University, is an intellectual historian of the French Right and of
French Catholic literature. A former supporter of the Society of St
Pius X, he comments frequently on Catholic traditionalism, and
prepared the English translation of "Marcel Lefebvre" by Bernard
Tissier de Mallerais.

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Monday, 5 September 2011

Praying for the Vatican-SSPX discussions


I understand that there is to be a crucial meeting in the discussions between the Holy See and SSPX on September 14th, the Feast of the Holy Cross. There is a background article about the current state of the dialogue from Rorate Caeli which can be read here.

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St Pius X
Pray for the dialogue between the Church and the SSPX

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Mindful of this I have today started a Novena to St Pius X that the meeting will be fruitful and help to bring the Society back into full peace and communion. That is an outcome profoundly to be desired in my view, and which will benefit all Catholics and the life of the entire Church.

Friday, 12 August 2011

Understanding Dignitatis Humanae


A post by Joe Shaw entitled Religious Liberty: a fresh approach pointed me to an important article by Prof. Thomas Pink, Professor of Philosophy at King's College London, on the interpretation of Vartican II's 1965 statement on Religious Liberty Dignitatis humanae which can be read on Rorate Caeli.

The background to the passing of the declaration can be read here. The question of whether there was a hermeneutic of rupture or continuity in this conciliar statement with what the Church had previously taught has been a vexed issue for many Traditionalists, and apparently still remains a sticking point in the discussions between the Holy See and SSPX. Prof. Pink appears to offer a way forward, and argues that Dignitatis Humanae should be read with a hermeneutic of continuity in the Church's teaching. Here is another article from 2009 by Peter Kwasniewski entitled Dignitatis Humanae which looks on first sight to be offering a similar analysis.

If this is so then it must devoutly be hoped that this can enable discussion to be carried forward on the full reconciliation of SSPX to the Holy See.

I do rather wonder, assuming Thomas Pink is right, why it has taken so long for people to see what he sees. Has there been a hermeneutic of blindness on this topic for far too long?